Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Let's talk performance on episode 98 of the Ata Nation podcast.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Let's get started, sir.
[00:00:07] Speaker C: I will live with perseverance in the spirit of taekwondo, courtesy for fellow students, integrity within myself, and to become a black belt leader.
Welcome to the Ata Nation podcast.
[00:00:34] Speaker D: Welcome back, Ata nation. To the Ata nation. Podcast. I am your host, Senior Master Zach Hayden.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: I know it has been a short while since you have heard me on the air, but that's how things get after fall Nationals. Between fall Nationals and then we got Thanksgiving this week, and we just had all kinds of stuff going on, getting things ready for the school, for different sales and all kinds of stuff. It gets a little hectic. And so usually we back off and November, December, we just don't have as many episodes. But I saw something online that made me want to record an episode and get it out to you guys right away.
So we've got that for you. Today I've got an interview with a gentleman who has kind of worked in the music space and has now created a course online completely free for you to learn a little bit about how you can get your XMA, your extreme and creative music to be a little more than just pressing play and stuff. We talk in this interview about performance. We talk about how extreme and creative are such a cool training tool, how you can level up your music, all that kind of stuff. So we're going to get right to the interview, and then afterwards, I got a couple of announcements and definitely a link for you to that course. So let's get to our interview.
[00:01:57] Speaker C: Special guest interview.
[00:02:07] Speaker D: Hello, ata nation. Welcome back. We have with us a special guest, Mr. Robert Sanchez. How are you today, sir?
[00:02:14] Speaker E: I'm doing well.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me on.
[00:02:17] Speaker D: Very good. I know you're at work today, so we don't want to take too much of your time. And actually your work is going to come into kind of what we're going to talk about. But before we get to that, you start martial arts.
[00:02:31] Speaker E: So I think like a lot of dads, I started because my kids started. My son was taking swimming lessons and he could not keep his mouth closed. So there came a point at which that was counterintuitive towards staying alive and not drowning. So we needed something else for his four year old wiggly self to go into. And we just kind of stumbled across martial arts like everyone else. We thought we were signing up for.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: Karate, and we were fortunate to find.
[00:03:02] Speaker E: The Ata in that way. And then about a year and a half or so later, I think, like.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: A lot of good instructors and school.
[00:03:10] Speaker E: Owners do, they had a uniform ready for me showing up one day. And it was actually my wife that really encouraged me to sort of take the anti diabetes, martial arts medicine, which.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Was get a little more in shape.
[00:03:24] Speaker E: So that's how I started. And as happens, things escalated pretty greatly from there.
[00:03:30] Speaker D: Yes. And where do you train?
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Who's your instructor?
[00:03:33] Speaker E: So my instructors are Chief Master Barnum, chief Master Shoop, and Senior Master Dukes in Darien, Illinois. They're fantastic. They're wonderful.
All three of us, two of my kids, myself, we all train there.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: It's been a wonderful time.
[00:03:48] Speaker D: That's fantastic. Well, I wanted to get you on because one, we run into each other at regional tournaments.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Yes, sir.
[00:03:56] Speaker D: Been to one of our regional camps and stuff. And I know that your day job involves music and then I've seen you've been doing some things with music and I know that I had a student who came back from the last Fort Wayne I think it was the last Fort Wayne tournament.
[00:04:13] Speaker B: Were you guys there?
[00:04:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:04:14] Speaker E: Yes, sir.
[00:04:15] Speaker D: And he was like, man, this guy had this music where he had this intro and then this thing, and I was like, I know who you're talking about. So give us a little overview, first of just what your regular day job is, what your career is.
[00:04:31] Speaker E: I have been a high school band director. This is my 19th year teaching and mostly in public schools.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: So shout out to all the school.
[00:04:41] Speaker E: Educators out there that are working it every day. I'm real fortunate because most of the kids that I see choose to be in my class. So we have a real good time with that. But one of the primary things that.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: I do in this job is program.
[00:04:55] Speaker E: Concerts, high school marching band and all of these things are things that are designed towards teaching performance, towards appealing to an audience.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: And so that, among other things, I've.
[00:05:08] Speaker E: Seen as being very translatable to the martial arts. And in fact, I made a post maybe a month ago or so and I asked, who are my musician friends out there? And it was amazing. Some of the known martial artists that.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: We have in our community that are.
[00:05:25] Speaker E: Musicians and interesting, some of the instrument choices that they have. Were you a musician, Master Hayden?
[00:05:30] Speaker D: I was not, no. Not musically inclined.
[00:05:34] Speaker E: But if you were a musician, what would you say your instrument would be? Are you kind of a goofy guy?
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Would you be a low brass guy?
[00:05:42] Speaker D: I always dreamed that I would do, like, percussion. I like to do drums.
I played a little bit with the ukulele just because I want to play.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Over the Rainbow.
[00:05:57] Speaker E: Sorry that's the school bell going on right now, but don't worry, I'm still in my planning.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:04] Speaker E: It seems everybody has some sort of personal experience with music at some point and I think that's why there's such.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: A great point of connection for it.
[00:06:15] Speaker E: You talk about your student. He might not have understood fully what he's seen from a standpoint of the.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Nuts and bolts of it, but we.
[00:06:24] Speaker E: All can understand how it feels when.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: A music track hits us in a certain way.
[00:06:29] Speaker E: And so as a music educator, especially during the latter portion of my years, where I've been focused a lot less on winning state championship band things and stuff like that, and more just about performance.
To me, getting that crowd out of their seat at a marching band show or getting some emotion out in an indoor performance is every bit as exciting.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: As standing on the podium at Nationals. Yes, sir.
[00:06:56] Speaker D: Well, that brings us to for so many people, if you go to Worlds and Nationals, you see some extreme competition where they've got a mix. It's not just a song that's played over. And I know there's some guys in the industry who are doing mixes and stuff for others, but I think the vast majority of extreme and creative competitors right now just have a song that they're playing in the background, and some of them are doing a decent job of using it as part of their performance. And a lot of people are just kind of doing a little bit of the beat and whatnot.
But you are taking it to the next level, trying to really mix that performance with the music, make sure it's an essential part of the performance.
How would you suggest people kind of start on that? What's the process for thinking through that?
[00:07:52] Speaker E: Well, first of all, I want to.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Acknowledge that I'm taking it to the.
[00:07:57] Speaker E: Next level in that I'm doing it. But there's a really wonderful example. Master evan Turner, the barbie girl? And I think that performance is known because it's got a little bit of a comedic value to it. And of course, his martial arts is outstanding.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:08:15] Speaker E: But if you watch the performance, he's interacting with the music in such a really tight and detailed, you can wash my hair, and then he throws a hand combo after that. So I think we already have in our ranks people who understand this concept. I think what I'm doing differently is I'm using specifically the angle of music.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: And performance to approach it.
[00:08:39] Speaker E: So I think for somebody that wants to get started, the first thing is you have to find music that you.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Connect with and not worry so much.
[00:08:47] Speaker E: There is a formula we all know that is successful.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: But that being said, in my ring.
[00:08:54] Speaker E: There'S our school bell again.
[00:08:56] Speaker D: No worries.
Those kids got to get to their classes. They'll be in trouble.
[00:09:01] Speaker E: There's going to be one more in about a minute and a half, but that's okay. In my ring, there's a gentleman named Chris Fuller from Missouri, and he's in the second and third degree, 40 to 49.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: And he is really excellent at using.
[00:09:15] Speaker E: His music and using his moves to tell a story. And his music starts out really lyrical, so you really can use anything. And if you refer to the rules.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: And how we judge it.
[00:09:29] Speaker E: It's not about the speed in totality. It's not about the total vocabulary. It's about the full package. And particularly for those young kids, and.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: Especially adults who may want to start out, you can use anything. You can use anything.
[00:09:44] Speaker E: It doesn't have to have a drop.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Although that's commonly accepted best practice at.
[00:09:49] Speaker E: Some point to have that. And so that would be the first thing.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Find something you connect with. And the second thing is the Ata.
[00:09:57] Speaker E: Max program has a lot of great vocabulary in there. If you've taken Master Grayson's seminars, Live.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Extreme, start putting some stuff together and having fun with the music you choose, and just go out there and do it. I mean, really, that's it.
[00:10:13] Speaker D: When you are going through and creating routine for yourself, let's say for Extreme or Creative, do you go and choose your music first and build your performance from that, or do you start with a performance and then go to music afterwards? What's your personal preference?
[00:10:35] Speaker B: I think it depends on if it's.
[00:10:39] Speaker E: A weapon, if it's a form.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: I can't do flips.
[00:10:45] Speaker E: I've done roles and was told they.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Looked very amusing to those.
[00:10:49] Speaker E: In fact, the first time I ever did one in competition was at Fort Wayne. There's your school bell again.
[00:10:55] Speaker D: Get the class, kids.
[00:10:58] Speaker E: The first one I ever did one at competition was at Fort Wayne, and I got a great audience reaction from my ringmates. But I know it looked absolutely.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: You.
[00:11:09] Speaker E: Know, for example, the Star Wars one is the one that your student is probably talking about. And the genesis of that came during COVID And really what that came from.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Is there were four or five different.
[00:11:22] Speaker E: Weapons that we were playing with in leadership before COVID And so what I just did was I tried to pick a song to match each weapon. So, of course, we all know the.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Osung Do looks like a pirate sword.
[00:11:33] Speaker E: And so I picked Pirates of the Caribbean for that. And I did something Star Wars with the Gumdo because it's more like a.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Samurai and for the other things, too.
[00:11:46] Speaker E: So the Star Wars thing has sort.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Of evolved out of, you know for example, I was very fortunate enough to.
[00:11:53] Speaker E: Have the chance to compete at TOC this summer and fortunate enough to win a world championship in creative weapon.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: And I did a very traditional Gumdo.
[00:12:03] Speaker E: Form, and I chose Stairway to Heaven because I like the song, because I.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Connect with it, because others know it.
[00:12:08] Speaker E: But also because you can hear the sword whoosh.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: It's not so overbearing if if that.
[00:12:16] Speaker E: Sort of thing is important to you. That was a consideration, too.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: And right now, for my extreme form.
[00:12:24] Speaker E: I'm using a metal version of Peaches from the Super Mario movie.
[00:12:29] Speaker D: Yes, I heard that.
[00:12:31] Speaker E: Complete with thrusting heart. Shout out to Master Harrington there at our last tournament in Maryville. He helped me complete the other half of the hand heart.
We did not touch hands, so he was not officially a prop. But I think Master Wade nearly fell on the floor as the center judge when that happened. And so in that respect, what I've.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: Learned is that for the forms, especially, where I do want to do well.
[00:13:03] Speaker E: But I maybe lack a little bit of the skill set. I try to really focus on having fun and bringing good energy.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: And if you think about where my.
[00:13:12] Speaker E: Ring is in the day and this might not be a consideration for a teenager, but maybe some adults.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: And I want to poke a little bit at my region, because your region made the change, I think, after I.
[00:13:28] Speaker E: Got to be a black belt.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: But when I was a color belt.
[00:13:31] Speaker E: My region would do the color belt.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Adults at the very end, and I.
[00:13:37] Speaker E: Would always enjoy coming into your region because you guys did them right after Bowen. So you would do all the adult black belts, and then you would do the color belt adults first thing.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: And as soon as I became a black belt in my region, they put the color belt adults first thing.
[00:13:54] Speaker E: And my ring, which at that time was first degree, suddenly is at the.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: End of the day.
But what that did, though, was, everybody's tired. It's a bunch of dads.
[00:14:07] Speaker E: The wives are upset because we've been there all day. The kids are crying. They're on their iPads. They want to go home.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: And a lot of people will just.
[00:14:15] Speaker E: Forego those events for that reason. And I thought, you know what? If we can just have some fun.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Doing this, then at the very least.
[00:14:23] Speaker E: It was worth our time to be here.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: And as a color belt. As a color belt, having fun was good enough to win a lot of times. Yes.
[00:14:33] Speaker E: And that's one of the things that I tried to express to my children. If you can pick good music and have fun, you can get a title.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: On your back as a color belt especially.
[00:14:44] Speaker E: And we all see these people when we're young with these titles, we want to be just like them.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: And this is a pathway to do that.
[00:14:51] Speaker D: And I think you're so right in that. Having fun, I think, plays so much into the performance.
Like you said earlier, I think not enough people pay attention to the overall performance. Am I watching it and are you enjoying it? Am I buying that you are into this in a full way versus your face is not enjoying what you're doing, or your face is not into it? Your body's doing whatever, but it's like a bad actor.
Their face just isn't doing what you're supposed to be doing. I always feel that the best extreme forms is it's acting, it's performing. I can see the whole thing. And for some people, that is a super serious not screaming in a bad way, but the facial expression is intense, and it is.
And that's great because I still buy it. And then there's some that it's a playful, it's a more fun and a mix as well. You're still yelling, you're still doing those kind of things.
But those performances are what to me are really winning out there because I've seen people do flips and stuff, and I don't buy the rest of it.
They're not into it. And you've got to have that performance. I think the way you're using music, the way you're picking songs and stuff is just really elevating that performance all around.
[00:16:26] Speaker E: I appreciate that feedback, and I've noticed that a lot of the best performers are doing exactly what you've said, and their music matches the energy, but there's almost a lack of awareness sometimes that all of those elements are combining to form that secret sauce. And I think what I'm trying to put out there and offer is not.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: A faster way, but a different option.
[00:16:54] Speaker E: And an organic way, especially for folks.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: That either have different creative backgrounds, like.
[00:17:01] Speaker E: We all have different backgrounds, but also, just as I said, as another pathway.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: To bring people into Creative Extreme.
[00:17:11] Speaker E: Can I tell you why give you a great example of a recent tournament, why I think Creative Extreme is so, so important to our organization?
[00:17:18] Speaker B: So my son is ten years old.
[00:17:22] Speaker E: He is the everyman in the Ata.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: He's the kid that shows up.
[00:17:26] Speaker E: He works hard, he's got a smile on his face. Sometimes he wins a medal, sometimes he doesn't. He's got a title on his back because of things I mentioned before and doing Creative Extreme at South Bend, there's six or seven in his ring. He's a ten year old 2nd 3rd degree black belt ring. So it's a smallish ring. It's not some of the large size rings that you see. And these kids are so intense during traditional forms and weapons and then, of course, sparring and combat.
They're kicking each other in the head, as we know.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: But then creative and extreme happens. And they're all bros.
[00:18:00] Speaker E: They're all cheering for each other. They're going, oh, when somebody makes a good move.
[00:18:05] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:18:06] Speaker E: Like not even caring. What are the implications of that? There are some great performers throughout the country that we met when we were.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: At Worlds, and a couple of them have talked about in his ring, a.
[00:18:15] Speaker E: Couple of them, I'm friendly with their parents. They've talked about coming to competitions locally.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: And in telling my son that and him being well aware that that's going.
[00:18:25] Speaker E: To lower his chances of getting a.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Medal, he's thrilled just to see the kid because of his experience in those events, in that arena.
[00:18:36] Speaker E: And that's so, so important because that's.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Going to keep these kids especially involved over the long term. Yes, sir.
[00:18:45] Speaker D: Yeah, for sure. I think you're right on. I think we've interviewed some people recently about the atMAX program and how great the new kind of just the layout, the curriculum, the vocabulary, getting that all standardized is done. I know you just put out a course or something to help kind of get their music ready. Tell us about that real quick.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Well, you asked about what comes first.
[00:19:15] Speaker E: The music or the form. And I more talked about what my music is and why it shows it. I think a lot of people, when.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: They utilize music, they just hit play.
[00:19:25] Speaker E: Right now, I know for my son and my daughter, they're young. In a couple of cases, they need.
[00:19:31] Speaker B: That music to stop, for them to stop. And so that's the first thing for me.
[00:19:39] Speaker E: My form will evolve and I can change my music. I can make it longer, I can make it shorter, I can add effects, I can edit out sections, I can even speed up certain things.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: And the ability to do that seems.
[00:19:53] Speaker E: To be something that people are interested in. Either at a very basic level, like I described with my kids. And in that case, you would simply.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Just need to be able to chop.
[00:20:02] Speaker E: An ending off, maybe fade it out, and at a more advanced level, be able to more finely detail edit the music. See, a lot of these DJs that you're referring to that are making these.
[00:20:14] Speaker B: Mixes, a lot of them are creating original music. A lot of them are making samples.
[00:20:20] Speaker E: Or taking little samples of known things.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: But for the most part, it's original work. And that's not what I'm doing at all.
I would like to empower people to.
[00:20:29] Speaker E: Be able to take the music that.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: They connect with and make it work.
[00:20:35] Speaker E: For what they need to do and be able to change it. So what I put out was just a free course, and this was more to see if this could be taught in that way. See, I don't know.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: I know it can be taught. I have taught it, but I've taught.
[00:20:49] Speaker E: It to live students in front of me. What I really am interested to know.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Is essentially this is music production, but for martial arts.
[00:20:58] Speaker E: Can this be taught in this sort of online format?
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Because if it can, I think that becomes another offering that can work with.
[00:21:07] Speaker E: A lot of the programs, like an Ata Max that we have that's there. So this first one will teach you how to put the music into your software. We're using something called BandLab, which is free. So if anybody wants to go play around with that, they can go to Bandlab.com right now and start playing. There's a lot of others.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: If you have Macs, you can use GarageBand.
[00:21:27] Speaker E: When I first started doing it, I was using FL Studio, which I know a lot of the DJs that are out there doing the mixes for people use.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: That's a great one too.
[00:21:37] Speaker E: And what it'll teach you to do.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Is it'll teach you to take your MP3.
[00:21:41] Speaker E: There's a lot of ways to get MP3. Some of them YouTube will allow you to talk about, some of them they.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: Won'T, as I discovered.
[00:21:47] Speaker E: And you put it in there and.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: It teach you how to chop the end off, how to fade in and.
[00:21:52] Speaker E: Fade out nice and professionally, how to edit some volumes and do it in such a way that it could lead.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: To a next step.
[00:22:00] Speaker E: And if people are giving me good.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Feedback on that, then there's opportunity for more of this.
[00:22:07] Speaker E: I know I was talking to one.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: Master earlier in the week who was.
[00:22:12] Speaker E: Interested in using this entry level program for one of his students to get an education stripe. I know we have different requirements at different schools and that seemed to work very well. That seemed to work very well.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: So I've got some students that ignored.
[00:22:27] Speaker E: The sign on the door that says Quiet recording. They love being here, though. That's great.
[00:22:31] Speaker D: That's great.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:33] Speaker E: So there's a lot of different ways to do this, but if that can turn into something, I think that's part.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: One of a lot of very important things.
[00:22:41] Speaker E: I think part two, if you empower.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: People with the music like this, you can also empower them through performance.
[00:22:49] Speaker E: Because if we get younger martial artists and parents and different people into creative and extreme and other creative elements, teach.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Them how to improvise, that would be.
[00:23:01] Speaker E: One of the tenets of performance, is.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: Just can you make up five or six moves? A lot of people can't, but I think we can teach them that and.
[00:23:08] Speaker E: Use music as a way and that can become something again, that can work in tandem with an Ata Max program or in people's leadership programs or just something for the individual martial artists to.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Sink their teeth into if they want a little more.
[00:23:22] Speaker D: For sure. And I think especially as tech savvy as our youth are these days and whatnot, what a great, easy entry into taking a little ownership of your music and being able to tweak it and make it your own. It goes with the spirit of extreme and creative in. Now, instead of just taking the song and press and play and at the end my mom just presses stop, whatever, even just that. Fade in, fade out. A little music adjustment is awesome. So we're going to encourage people to go over and check that out. We'll stick a link in the show notes and I'll mention it here on the outro as well when I record that after this. So, anything else for our Ata nation today, sir? You did an awesome job with this. I'm excited for people to really learn and just be inspired to take their music in their performance to the next level.
[00:24:18] Speaker E: Yeah, I would say my final thoughts on this is I want to encourage people to think of their forms and.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: Weapons, whether it be creative or traditional, think of them as performances.
[00:24:32] Speaker E: Because if you do that, number one.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: You'Re going to feel good doing it.
[00:24:36] Speaker E: And why else do we ultimately do.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: These things if we're not this is.
[00:24:40] Speaker E: Not an inexpensive hobby for those of us that are hobbyists or for those of us that do it for a living too, I'm sure.
[00:24:48] Speaker D: Yes, sir.
[00:24:49] Speaker E: And we need to feel really excellent doing it. And I think viewing these things as a performance is going to start us down that way. And if we think about it like.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: That, then especially for those that may not feel like they're creative people, you are. You are all creative. Anybody that's doing it's, martial arts, I'm.
[00:25:07] Speaker E: Not going to really probably do all.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: That great in a street fight, but how many of us really do that?
[00:25:13] Speaker E: My students are, oh, you're a black belt, you can beat this.
[00:25:15] Speaker B: No martial arts.
And that's, to me, I think, the.
[00:25:21] Speaker E: Important part of that. And so that would be my parting message, think about it as performance. This is an art form.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: You are all creators.
[00:25:28] Speaker D: I love that. I love that, sir. What a great ending.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Thought.
[00:25:32] Speaker D: So I want to thank you for your time today. Say hi to your students for us and tell them that you're going to be on the world famous Ata Nation podcast. Yes, sir.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Love to hear it.
[00:25:42] Speaker D: We'll see you at the next regional tournament.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: Yes, sir. We'll see you later. Take care, sir.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Here's. What's going on in Ata Nation?
[00:25:56] Speaker D: So ata nation a couple of things.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: A couple of announcements. These are not as much what's going on in Ata Nation, though you definitely need to check out the registration for Spring Nationals, all kinds of seminars and things you want to do there at Spring National. It's going to be a lot of fun. So make sure you check that out online because that registration is up and live and you want to get rolling on that. But a couple of announcements from me here at the podcast. Number one, we're shooting to have at least one more episode still this year, I have a solo show I want to do, kind of talking about physical prep, athletic development, what we need to be working on as martial arts athletes, as competitors, as high ranks. And I will invite you to make sure you check that out and check out our Instagram. We'll be posting. I've got a thing I want to do for the new year with January, for any of you out there that are really wanting to level up your athletic skills. And I'm not going to get too far into it because that's the solo show. Anyways, stay tuned for that because we've got something that we want to provide for you guys. With that, I've also got an interview with somebody, lots of details about foot and the feet and how important they are and stuff like that. That'll probably come out after the first year. We're going to record that. And then I got to do something big for our 100th episode, which is like right around the corner. I think I've got an idea, but we will see.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you check out this audio course that was mentioned in the episode in the interview. Head over to Atama. That's like martial arts. Atama Ninja Audio. It's going to be Atama Ninjaaudio. And you can sign up for that free training to really level up your music and get more information on that really great stuff there. So make sure you check that out. So ladies and gentlemen, until next time, make sure you're out there taking action.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Thanks for listening to another episode of the Ata Nation podcast. Be sure to subscribe and share with your Ata family.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Secret section. Hey, tomorrow is Thanksgiving. Maybe you're listening this on the way to family or whatnot? Or after Thanksgiving. But you know what? I'm thankful for you guys. The people that I see at tournaments who say they listen to the podcast, the people message online, all of you guys who take the time to share the podcast and enjoy the podcast, I'm really thankful for you guys.
You make this possible for us to continue and to share all kinds of awesome things with Ata Nation. So thank you and have a great Thanksgiving.
